An oncoming car popped into view as I was about half way through passing the truck but I still appeared to have room to safely pass. I knew the down shift response was very lazy in eco mode so I manually downshifted twice gave about 75% throttle and proceeded to pass the truck. We were on a nice two lane road and we went to pass a long truck. I was experimenting with Eco mode one day as I was enjoying the relaxed shifting and seeing if I would achieve better fuel economy as compared to tour mode. In 2018 myself and two of my ridding buddies all with 18 wings did a road trip to South Carolina. This aspect of the software is probably the worst of all. As for the complicated algorithm deciding when to disobey and override my manual shift commands. Unfortunately it sounds like a separate module from the ECU needs to be hacked to achieve that.ģ. My suggestion to have the modes switch in relation to throttle settings was just my attempt at a work around for the pathetic Honda software without having to redo everything. I was under the impression that power output between Touring and Sport mode is the same and they only differed in the amount the throttle opens in relation to the throttle setting. Maybe, soften it up a little from linear in economy and rain mode, maybe not. If it were up to me I would just go completely linear in Touring and Sport mode 100% of the time. It sounds like you guys definitely improved the sport mode throttle response. I was hopeful that the ECU alone would provide the required access to correct the situation but I'm not too surprised that it can't.ġ. It is almost like the software guys at Honda were actively trying to sabotage the new wing. While I love my 1800 overall, just thinking about the level of incompetence Honda displayed with the driving mode software makes me angry. I find it encouraging that somebody is attempting to improve what Honda did to the GL1800. It was not my intent to be too critical of the Guhi flash in my first post. As you had input with the flash you are the guy to discuss this with. The shock damping settings are not controlled by the ECM, so making changes to how they work is not possible through an ECM reflash. We already remapped the Tour mode to make it more responsive and provide full power at higher throttle settings.ĥ. Throttle mapping has to be done in a smooth fashion, otherwise the result is a jerky and uncontrollable throttle.Ĥ. The problem with what you are proposing is that it would cause large steps in the throttle map that would result in awkward control. The throttle maping in Econ mode is controlled by it's own throttle map. Furthermore, this function is not controlled in the ECM, so the reflash is not able to change it anyway.ģ. It uses a complicated algorithm that looks at the bikes speed, gear selection, and other parameters before switching back to auto mode. The time between when the bike switches back to auto-mode after a manual downshift is performed is not a set number of seconds. The reflash already addresses the throttle response in Sport Mode and tames it down in the lower gears to make the bike feel less twitchy at low speeds.Ģ. Have the shocks on the firm setting in your mode.Ĭlick to expand.FYI, I helped Don Guhl build this new flash and have been working with him on it for nearly three years now. Do not return to Tour mode until throttle is closed.ĥ. When in Tour mode automatically go to sport mode at 90% throttle. Do not return to Economy mode until the throttle is closed.Ĥ. When in Economy mode have the bike automatically go to Tour mode at 50% throttle and Sport mode at 90% throttle. When the rider inputs a manual shift command the bike obeys that command until the rider closes the throttle instead of for a preset number of seconds.ģ. Linear throttle response in sport mode.Ģ. Now that we have a company that is working with the 1800’s ECU there is a chance that some of the issues with the driving modes can be resolved but first the company programming the ECU needs to know what needs to be done.ġ. I had pretty much given up any hope for a solution to the driving mode problem and made the best of a bad situation by always leaving it in Tour mode and unplugging the shocks while on the firm setting. I am convinced that the person at Honda that was in charge of the driving mode system for the 1800 has never ridden a motorcycle. Unfortunately the Guhi flash does not address the main problem of the almost completely useless and sometimes dangerous driving modes. As I have been riding my 18 for three seasons now I have a pretty good idea what I would like to see in a reflash. I have not posted in a while but as I was surfing around on the net a few days ago I noticed that a company called Guhi Motors has a flash for the new wing.
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